To review fight selection mistakes in League of Legends, rewind 45 seconds before each lost teamfight and ask whether your team had item spikes, numbers, wave pressure, and vision — most wipe losses are bad fight calls, not bad mechanics. On thatswhy.gg, pick that wipe, hit Coach Me, and read Recurring Habit. "We had to fight" is solo queue for "we had to eat the entire pizza." You did not. Review the call, then queue with one rule.
| Check | Question To Ask | If The Answer Is No |
|---|---|---|
| Numbers | Are we even or ahead in alive members? | Do not start — trade or reset |
| Items | Do we have a spike (mythic, level 6, two-item)? | Farm or trade objectives instead |
| Waves | Are side lanes pushed or safe? | Fix waves before grouping for a fight |
| Vision | Do we know how the enemy is approaching? | Sweep or hold — do not facecheck into engage |
| Objective value | Is this contest worth dying for right now? | Concede and take a trade on the map |
| Pattern | Why It Loses LP | Review Focus |
|---|---|---|
| 4v5 objective contest | Fight starts before fifth member arrives | Ping timer, wave state, who was still in lane |
| Half-strength Baron or dragon | Team commits after a bad pick or death | Whether trade was available instead of contest |
| ARAM mid with no waves | Side lanes crash while team fights for nothing | Wave pressure before grouping mid |
| Fed lane forcing fights | Shutdown donated while carry is under-itemized | Lead conversion and reset timing after kills |
| Vague Goal | Specific Queue Rule |
|---|---|
| Fight better | Do not start a fight if we are down a member or an item spike |
| Stop inting objectives | Concede dragon if two teammates are dead — take Herald or tower instead |
| Play safer when behind | No facecheck engages unless we have numbers and vision advantage |
| Convert lane leads | After a kill, recall unless plates or objective are immediate in 15 seconds |
Frequently Asked Questions
- How do I know if a lost fight was a selection mistake?
If your team started the fight down a member, down an item spike, or without wave or vision setup, it was probably a selection mistake. Review the engage decision, not only the ability rotation in the pit. Skillshots do not fix a 4v5 you volunteered for.
- Should I always contest dragon and Baron in solo queue?
No. Contesting at half strength after a bad pick is one of the most common LP leaks. Review whether a trade — tower, Herald, opposite-side farm — was available before you ran to the pit. Mandatory is a rare word. Dragon is not always it.
- What is the most common fight selection mistake after winning lane?
Forcing fights because you are fed while your carry is still one item behind. Lane leads are resources, not permission to engage on every ping. Reset and convert pressure before you contest. The map did not get the memo about your 3/0.
- How many games should I review for fight selection patterns?
Compare your last five to ten ranked games. One bad teamfight is noise. Three fights started outnumbered or under-itemized before objectives is a habit worth fixing with one queue rule.
- How do I review this on thatswhy.gg?
Search your Riot ID, pick a loss where the wipe felt like mechanics, hit Coach Me, and read Recurring Habit. Excuse Me, Coach? on that wipe: should we have taken this fight? If the same forced-fight leak keeps showing up, We've seen this and Why Am I Losing? after five analyzed SR losses will say you keep ordering the pizza.